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“Hacks” is now 4 seasons into an established drama rhythm, moreover arsenic it continues to find caller ways to complicate nan move betwixt standup fable Deborah Vance (Jean Smart) and drama writer Ava Daniels (Hannah Einbinder). But that surely doesn’t mean making nan show has gotten easy aliases expected. 

Co-creators Lucia Aniello, Paul W. Downs, and Jen Statsky person ever been beautiful ocular writers, pinch a clear consciousness of what they want, but they hunt pinch nan tirelessness of Damian’s (Mark Indelicato) quest for coyote-warding carnivore piss to sculpt precisely nan correct drama moments. So while they often aren’t “finding nan show” successful nan edit successful a wholesale way, they are searching each framework for what hit is nan funniest.   

Pierce Brosnan astatine nan Paramount+ "MobLand" New York Premiere astatine SVA Theatre connected March 31, 2025 successful New York, New York.

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“We do for illustration to watch beautiful overmuch each return of everything. That is ever going to beryllium nan point we for illustration to do,” Aniello told IndieWire connected an section of nan Filmmaker Toolkit podcast. “We ever opportunity nan edit’s not done, it’s conscionable abandoned. We’re not really group who find it successful nan edit for nan astir part. We really cognize what we want. For us, it’s really conscionable about, ‘Is that nan champion performance? Is that nan champion take?’” 

Shifting done each and each action is, of course, alternatively time-consuming. Aniello praised nan show’s “very patient” editors, particularly nan adjunct editors who create drawstring outs but sometimes get asked to spell backmost successful and find moments that were betwixt wherever nan takes started and ended, aliases that weren’t logged, aliases that were portion of nan pre-roll. 

Part of nan small heart to do that comes from nan very truth that “Hacks” is simply a show astir a standup comic. It is astir performance, and while Downs is nan only 1 of nan 3 co-creators to look connected camera (so far), Aniello and Statsky are besides performers, too. 

“We each came from making alt drama — performing it, penning it, shooting integer shorts and editing them ourselves. So we travel astatine it from performance. We really want nan capacity to beryllium conscionable right, particularly erstwhile it comes to comedic moments. We not only watch each take, we often audition them successful nan sequence,” Downs told IndieWire connected nan aforesaid Filmmaker Toolkit episode. “If there’s 5 takes, we’ll watch each 5 takes successful nan series of nan different actors to spot what alchemy is correct.” 

Aniello pointed retired that watching 1 return aft different tin rob them of nan wider discourse of nan scene. “You really don’t cognize which is nan champion 1 until each of a abrupt you spot it successful nan sequence. So sometimes it tin conscionable beryllium time-consuming and you’ve gotta decorativeness nan show astatine immoderate point,” Aniello said. 

But 1 of nan barriers to yet finishing nan hat “Hacks” episodes is crafting nan last operation and colour people truthful that nan show is presented successful nan champion imaginable measurement crossed a wide assortment of viewing platforms and formats. 

Jean Smart sitting successful a reddish velvet chair onstage successful 'Hacks' Season 4. ‘Hacks’ Courtesy of Max

“We sound operation connected nan shape and we perceive to it connected nan stage, but past erstwhile we do our reappraisal of nan sound operation aft notes are given, we spell to a different situation and perceive to it connected tv speakers,” Downs said. “We effort and perceive to things and watch things some from a colour people and a sound creation standpoint successful arsenic galore environments arsenic we tin because they’re truthful different instrumentality to device.” 

They tin get exacting astir those differences, too. “You’re like, ‘OK, well, successful 5.1 it sounds for illustration this; successful left-to-right it sounds for illustration this; connected nan computer, it sounds for illustration this. We virtually are like, ‘What brands of televisions do astir group person and watch it from?’” Aniello said. “’What is nan astir apt out-of-the-box colour people that group put connected it?’ We want to make [the show] arsenic bully arsenic imaginable for nan astir people, but past you [also want] to reward nan group who put nan clip into having a 5.1 speaker strategy successful their house, and it conscionable gets very complicated. You’re like, ‘Who do we make it for?’ We are reasoning astir those things truthful much.”  

The devil is successful those details, to beryllium sure, but immoderate of nan biggest shifts that hap successful nan edit connected “Hacks” are ones that simplify what we spot successful bid to emotionally explain what nan characters are going through. One cardinal illustration of this occurs early connected successful nan Season 4 finale, “Heaven,” while Deborah is licking her late-night exit wounds backmost successful Las Vegas. 

Jean Smart and Hannah Einbinder arsenic Deborah and Ava successful Season 4 of Hacks, doing Karaoke pinch mics successful their hands and a surface showing Mandarin lyrics to The Cranberries 'Dreams' down them. ‘Hacks’JAKE GILES NETTER/HBO

“When I travel into a director’s trim of Lucia’s work, I cognize beautiful overmuch what it is because we constitute successful a measurement that’s beautiful ocular and we oftentimes person planned things that I’ll expect to see,” Downs said. But nan series of Deborah moping successful bed, astatine stone bottom, was different. A lawsuit of highly judicious editing, successful summation to return selection, elevated it beyond what Downs expected to see. 

“We had really scripted [a bid of] voicemails from Jimmy [Paul W. Downs] and Kayla [Megan Stalter] and Randy [Robbie Hoffman] and Ava conscionable checking successful connected her and each of nan calls that she’d missed. But erstwhile Jen and I came successful astatine nan producer’s level to watch Lucia’s first director’s cut, she had opted not to see those voiceovers,” Downs said. “And I was truthful moved by that sequence. I thought it was 1 of my favourite things successful nan series. Now, that’s saying a batch because my lines were cut, OK? Jimmy’s lines were cut. But I loved that series truthful much.” 

All episodes of “Hacks” are now streaming connected Max. To perceive Lucia Aniello’s and Paul W. Downs’s afloat interview, subscribe to nan Filmmaker Toolkit podcast connected Apple, Spotify, aliases your favourite podcast platform.